Twisted Girl
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.05.20 21:15:00 -
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Baneken wrote:Drakarin wrote:ELECTR0FREAK wrote:Dreads really should be an anti-capital weapon... it's a shame they're not very effective at it.
Granted, it's been a while since I got rid of my Revelation, but it's kinda sad when a typical Carrier has no trouble tanking a DPS-fit Dread. How is this the case, though? Looking at the video posted in this thread, the Dreadnaught was doing an actual dps of at least 10,000 assuming he did not miss, which he won't against a slow moving ultra large ship like a carrier. So why aren't they effective anti capital ships? Because of siege and that mom's had an equal/better DPS with E-war immunity and that FB's had no problems what so ever at dealing that same 10k dps on sub-capitals as well as capitals. Now that super caps are least somewhat toned down regular caps, or rather their sub-capital support fleets, aren't as vulnerable as they used to.
its a lot of things that wrong in this thread but Im just gonna point out a few.
first off all supers got twice the dmg of a carrier if they had all their fighter drones. (which is like 2500 dps in a nyx) however real combat fitted supers WILL NEVER have 20 fighters, nyxes and hels will have 15 , aeons and wyverns gonna have 10) They want to have 20 fighterbomber and then its only room for 15-10 fighters. This means that Aeons and Wyverns do exactly the same dps as their "non supercap" siberlings, 1k dps (archon and chimera) agains subcaps. Nyx which does the most does 1920dps with its 15 fighters. That is if target is webbed/got huge enough sig to be hit full force. Fighters tracks a little worse than heavy drones in my experince.
FBs is totaly useless again subcaps btw.
Quote:Speed tank. Unless it's in triage, the dread will miss, all the time. A dread will miss when firing against a capital ship moving at 60 m/s ...? The hell? ]Yes, a lot.
Dreads got 0 issues tracking carriers unless they use the long range guns and sit at 5km trying to shoot carriers moving. That is without tracking fit aswell.You can hit frigates with dreads I mean as long as you know what your is doing/frigate doesnt know what hes doing.
Btw reason why Dreads is less popular in non WH is mostly due to that they are 3 billion a pop due to mineral prices, they are a blob magnate and scale worse than carriers(cant rep eachother) , they are stuck for 5min pr cycle, They do equally/bether damage than a super , but got much less ehp. and people are afraid of loosing them. the second you trow away the "afraid" of loosing them the quicker you will have success with them. As long as your just catch people by suprice and is simply shooting someone/something while they are disorginized they rule. |
Twisted Girl
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:27:00 -
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Baneken wrote:Twisted Girl wrote:
its a lot of things that wrong in this thread but Im just gonna point out a few.
first off all supers got twice the dmg of a carrier if they had all their fighter drones. (which is like 2500 dps in a nyx) however real combat fitted supers WILL NEVER have 20 fighters, nyxes and hels will have 15 , aeons and wyverns gonna have 10) They want to have 20 fighterbomber and then its only room for 15-10 fighters. This means that Aeons and Wyverns do exactly the same dps as their "non supercap" siberlings, 1k dps (archon and chimera) agains subcaps. Nyx which does the most does 1920dps with its 15 fighters. That is if target is webbed/got huge enough sig to be hit full force. Fighters tracks a little worse than heavy drones in my experince.
FBs is totaly useless again subcaps btw.
3 per lvl = 15 + 5 = 20 = 10 000 dps from a max skilled Nyx; FB's used to hit full on any subcapital.As far as fighters/drones are concerned a Nyx or any other mom can have twice as much fighters out as any carrier. Now that FB's have guns instead of missiles along with a host of other nerfs they are a lot less deadly on sub capitals then they used to. Also 5 min siege timer and other improvements have made dreads a whole lot better (especially the removal of tracking bonus while sieged) and I can't complain about 5min triage on carriers either. Fb havent really hurt subcaps since the first nerf it got few mothns after they was introduced in 2010. In the beginning I could 2 volly a drake or BS. then they nerfed it so it did more or less heavy drone dmg on support. Now after that they changed it from the drone model firing torps til firing a fake gun(that accually fires a kinda missile but with much higher explosive radius(2250m) So nowadays your lucky if you hit a battleship for 75dps each 20 seconds(with 20 drones thats like 75dps). so you cant really count the fb dps agains anything else than capitals. agains anything else its the mentioned dps above. |